• AutoProm FAQ

General

Where can I find more information on the AutoProm?

Is the AutoProm right for me?

Will the AutoProm tune my car for me?

Features

What chips can I burn and read with the AutoProm?

Why does the USB version support writing 27SF512 chips, but the serial version does not?

What chips can I emulate using the AutoProm?

What are the 3 additional channels of analog to digital (A/D) conversion for and how can I make use of them?

Troubleshooting

Where can I get help with my AutoProm?

I've hooked up the USB AutoProm to the computer, but the software cannot find or detect it.

Emulation does not seem to work. The SES light flickers and/or the cooling fans come on when I turn the key on.

After uploading my bin to the AutoProm, verification fails.

I can't seem to read or write a chip. What am I doing wrong?

The Answers

General

Where can I find more information on the AutoProm?

http://www.moates.net/

Is the AutoProm right for me?

That really depends on a number of things. The AutoProm combines the functionality of a number of devices into one. It is an emulator, a chip burner, a data acquisition device, and an ALDL interface. With all of this functionality, it is not a simple device. It requires knowledge on how to use a computer. More than anything, it requires at least basic knowledge of tuning a car's EFI system.

Will the AutoProm tune my car for me?

No! Though we believe anyone can use the AutoProm after some studying and patience, the AutoProm is most recommended for people who already posess basic tuning knowledge. The AutoProm makes tuning simpler by providing all required tuning hardware in a single device and software interface. The AutoProm also reduces the time necessary to tune, since it allows the technician the ability to test their tune in real time (without burning chips). However, the AutoProm does not tune your car for you! Expect a learning curve.

Does the USB AutoProm require a driver, and if so, where do I get it and how do I install it?

The USB AutoProm does require a driver. You can download it form http://www.moates.net/. Instructions on installation can also be found there. Without the driver, the AutoProm will not function.

Note that the serial version does not require any special drivers.

What does the vertical switch on the rear of the AutoProm do?

The vertical switch on the backplane of the AutoProm changes the resistance between pins A and B on the ALDL interface cable. The topmost position places 10k ohms between the pins. Some ECMs require this 10k resistance in order to connect to the ALDL datastream (1227165 is an example). The middle position opens the connection between A and B (infinite resistence). This is the "default" position. Most cars can be datalogged in this position. Cars that require 10k to connect can be switched to this position after connection. The bottom most position shorts the connection (0 ohms). Most GM ECMs dump trouble codes when pins A and B are shorted. This switch position makes doing so simple and convenient when a PC is not available.

What does the horizontal switch on the rear of the AutoProm do?

The horizontal switch, called the bypass switch, switches whether the PC communicates with the AutoProm CPU or directly to the ALDL interface hardware. When the switch is towards the serial or USB port, the PC communicates with the AutoProm CPU. This mode is used for changing data in the emulation buffer, for acquiring A/D data, and for ALDL datalogging in "AutoProm" mode (TunerPro only).

When the switch is switched away from the serial or USB port, the AutoProm is in bypass mode. This mode allows the PC to communicate directly with the car through the ALDL cable. This allows the AutoProm to function as a simple ALDL cable. Use this mode to communicate with your OBDI vehicle using most ALDL data acquisition software such as WinALDL, CarBytes, Datamaster, etc.

What is the firewire connection on the rear of the AutoProm for?

The firewire connection on the backplane of newer AutoProm units is used for connecting (via a special connector available from moates.net) the 3 channel A/D module.

Features

What chips can I burn and read with the AutoProm?

The Serial and USB AutoProm can read the following:

2732A, 27C128, 27C256, 27C512, 27SF512, 29C256, 29F040, Moates F2A Ford Adapter, Moates F2E EEC reader

The Serial AutoProm can write to the following chips:

29C256, 29F040, 27SF512*, Moates F2A Ford Adapter

* USB AutoProm only

Why does the USB version support writing 27SF512 chips, but the serial version does not?

Because of the simplicity and size of the USB connector, there is more room on the hardware layout for the electronics necessary to write to 27SF512 chips. The serial version does not have enough room for the required components.

What chips can I emulate using the AutoProm?

The AutoProm can emulate virtually any chip up to 64MBit in size (64KB) with 28 pins or less.

What are the 3 additional channels of analog to digital (A/D) conversion for and how can I make use of them?

With the AutoProm, you can monitor and datalog up to 3 channels of analog data. This can be used to monitor external temperature sensors, voltage levels, etc. To make use of the this feature, you need the appropriate interface connector available from www.moates.net. Once connected, you can use TunerPro to monitor the data or datalog the data in the normal ALDL stream (see the TunerPro help documentation).

Troubleshooting

Where can I get help with my AutoProm?

In additional to this FAQ, the best place to get support for your AutoProm are the moates.net user forum at http://www.moates.net/phpforum/index.php. Additionally, you might try the TunerPro forum at http://www.supportfitness.com/tunerproforum/. Finally, there are many AutoProm users at the Thirdgen.org DIY-PROM message board. If you cannot find help from these sources, you may email Craig Moates (creator of the AutoProm) or Mark Mansur (author of TunerPro).

I've hooked up the USB AutoProm to the computer, but the software cannot find or detect it.

The USB AutoProm requires a driver to be installed. See the appropriate question in this FAQ for more information on finding and installing this driver.

Emulation does not seem to work. The SES light flickers and/or the cooling fans come on when I turn the key on.

There are a few things to try or check.

1) Make sure you do not have a chip in the ZIF adapter. At no time other than reading or writing a PROM should you have a chip in the AutoProm ZIF.

2) Make sure your checksum is correct or disabled if your ECM requires it. Checksums can be disabled on GM ECMs by uploading 0xAA to the Mask ID byte.

3) Make sure the chip header is installed in your ECM correctly. Make sure pin 1 is oriented correctly and that all pins are making contact. This may require making adjustments to your ECM chip adapter.

4) If you're using a C3 ECM (7747, etc), make sure you've soldered in your chip adapter correctly. Make sure your car runs as expected from your stock (or known-good) chip.

5) Make sure your emulation header cable is not too long or in a place where electrical interference could be an issue.

After uploading my bin to the AutoProm successfully, verification fails.

There are generally two causes for this: 1) You have a chip in the AutoProm ZIF, 2) Your USB cable is bad or inadequate. Try a different brand or type of USB cable.

I can't seem to read or write a chip. What am I doing wrong?

Make sure the chip is properly oriented in the AutoProm ZIF. Pin 1 should be towards the back (connection) side of the AutoProm, and the chip should be all the way towards the front of the ZIF, such that any unused pins are between the chip and the ZIF handle.

I can't seem to connect to my ECM with the AutoProm.

If your AutoProm is in bypass mode and you're using TunerPro, make sure TunerPro is configured to use "Max232" as the adapter interface. If you're using a USB AutoProm in bypass mode with WinALDL, make sure WinALDL is configured to use 4800 baud. There are a few ECMs that cannot be connected to un non-bypass mode. Please contact Craig or Mark for more information if you continue having difficulties connecting.

 

 
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