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can you email me the bin and ECU you're using?

TunerPro is designed exclusively to work with the Ostrich and AutoProm (both of Moates's emulators). Regarding the checksum, I'll have to investigate this (I'm out of town at the moment). I would have thought setting the size to zero would completely disable the ability to save a checksum. Meanwhile...

Yes, this is on the list, and will be called "User Tables", where you can track any ALDL item in a table with axis being any other ALDL items (for instance, spark tracked against RPM and load).

No, its not easy to implement.

Look for this in the 4.X series.

TunerPro will convert ECUs to the new definition format, however, for trace functionality to work (once I implement it in a future version), you'll need to modify the definition with the appropriate information.

Hmm. I'll look into this and fix it for ya'. Thanks.

Yes, this has been on the list for quite a while and will be there in the 4.X series of releases (through not in 4.00). This requires a new bin definition format (the re-write of which is complete), so it wasn't an easy task. This is the direction I'm headed, however. And from there, next will be au...

nope!

What hardware are you attaching to the adapter? Emulator? ALDL cable? If ALDL, there are a couple serial->USB adapters taht can't handle being opened at 8192 baud. If doing 160 baud logging with a serial->USB adapter, you'll have to wait until TunerPro 4.0, as USB adapters require the port to be ope...

Not that I know of. Looks like you've got a good start over there at thirdgen.org. Keep researching there (primarily with the "Search" feature), then continue asking questions like you are. Your questions will get more exposure over there, and you're more likely to run into people who shar...

Version 4.0 will support a new definition format which will allow endian swapping (as its called). Additionally, it will support the table cell delimiters thet Ford uses.

Stay tuned...

I'll be frank with you here. Although I realize that the documentation is not the best, my intention is to spend as much time on the software as possible. Not the software documentation. Documentation is better left to the forums (especially www.thirdgen.org/techbb2), where you can have others in th...

1) Eliminate emulation. Use the stock chip for the car. This will ensure that you're not in limp home mode, which would keep ALDL information from being broadcasted

2) how do you have an emulation toolbar? I haven't released the version that has that. Or do you mean emulation toolbox? =)

Add the trouble code bits to the ADS file if they're not there already, get an ALDL cable, and start logging your ECM. This will give you the TCs.

Not in 4.0, but I do intend to add a patch utility in the 4.X series.

If you stack, set the chip size to 32k, block size to 32k, and bin size to 4k. If stacked, when burning, start at offset 0 for both the buffer and chip.

If you dont want to stack, burn the raw 4k bin to the chip starting at $7000.

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TunerCat takes the table biases into account. TunerPro does not. TunerPro 4.0 will include the ability to do this.

1) Load 1227165_6E.ads 2) If the horizontal switch is toward the USB port, make sure TunerPro is set up to use the AutoProm as the ALDL interface. If its away from the port, set it up as a MAX232 interface. NOTE: if the horizontal switch is towards the port, make sure TunerPro detects the AutoProm. ...

good deal. I'm guessing there was something wrong with the original ECU file you were using.

its something with your system, not with TunerPro. Again, most likely related to drivers or a corrupt windows install.

If I remember right (I'm not in front of the code), I only autodetect COM ports 1-5. That yours is on 6 is probably the problem. Force it to 3, 4, or 5, depending on your system.

That should solve your problem.

Make sure the ECU file has the correct information in the header (correct bin size, correct checksum save location, etc).

Just set the view mode to calculated, hit 24, and hit save!

What you outline doesn't sound correct. Incrememting 443B one more should result in 443C.

What code mask?

I haven't heard of a 4.3 TPI.

Keep in mind that you need to edit the bin with the appropriate ECU file (one that matches the code mask of your bin).

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what chrome said.

The idea of a "standard" (but powerful) logging format is a good idea. I'm down to support it, just let me know. I can also send you the information you need for my logging format if you want to take Dig's suggestion and just make your tool import all the different formats. That will allow...

You might consider some reasons why the various logging software doesn't playback from CSV files. CSV files contain nothing but raw text (and commas). There is standardization to it. Once a log is exported, a user can do whatever they please with the arrangement, sorting, etc, of the CSV in excel. H...

What vin engine code and engine type?

Thanks for the kind words. TunerPro, in its current released form, will export a log session to CSV, which is text based and very easily parsed. A future version will allow you to customize what gets exported. Most logging applicaitons support CSV export. I'm wondering why this is inadequate. Logs a...

Yes, next version will have a completely different look and feel to the ALDL portion.

If you like Datamaster, use it!

Paul,

Yes on your first post, no on your second.

Both your issues are addressed in the next version (more space for aldl data and slider linearization).

thanks for your feedback.

Sure, I can do that.

Also note that all you have to do is open the bin in tunerpro (with matching ECU) and hit save. You shouldn't need to make any changes.

thanks!

I think its time for me to re-examine my 160 baud packet acquisition code. Enough people have been having issues. I can get it to work fine on my '165 $6E, other than an occasional glitch or two. Unfortunately I don't have access to any other test beds. I'll be going through this code (and just abou...

Pretty good idea. I'll look into it. This would also allow you to, at any time, view a history of a particular bin. You could enter a PROM ID and it owuld tell you what changes were made to get to that ID. There would be some things taht would need to be worked out, though. For instance, during emul...

its set up that way intentionally. Its compared with the editable as the control. -1 means "the editable bin is 1 less than than this". this is the same way tunercat does it. i built it the same way for consistancy.

That said, i'll make it an option in 4.0 to switch it around.

use 8192. Switch all the way up. If the horizontal switch is towards the serial port, be sure TunerPro is configured to use the AutoProm as the ALDL interface type. If the switch away from the port, set the interface type to MAX232. That should do it! I have a '165 $6E car (and a serial/USB autoprom...

for the record: fixed. 3.09 now availble.

Please do. I just tried creating a full (255 cell, all defined) lookup table and could not get it to crash.

you might try saving every few cells. on the next crash, send me the file (just before it crashed) and I'll try to make it happen here.

Sure has, and that is the reason for the 3.08 release. Is this the version you're using?

You mean like the summary view (F7)?

There is certainly a learning curve associate with it, but if you're spending $400 to get a custom chip burned (in most cases the outcome is "Good enough" rather than perfect), then your eally ought to consider getting into this. You'll save a lot of money and ultimately (the coolest part)...

Sure can! You just need to find out what ECM your truck uses and what code mask the chip is. You'll also need the necessary equipment for reading and burning your chip. For the equipment: http://www.moates.net You'll need at least a BURN1 to burn chips You'll likely need an adapter (a G1 or G2, depe...

No, not the memcal, the chip itself. You may want to make your way over to TGO and ask there. www.thirdgen.org/techbb2

They're likely operating on different code masks (even though the ECM and engine config is the same).

It will be a while. There are lots of other "Features" that need to fall into place before this can happen, namely, correlation between ALDL data and ECU data.

Look for this down the line in 4.0

Thanks for the kind words. As far the dough - there's no way. Enough to offset the cost of books and beer/soda and I'm happy. =)

1) There is a faq. Go to the main site, under support, click FAQ. Your question/answer is specifically right here: http://www.supportfitness.com/mark/tunerpro/FAQ.htm#T3 I also put a note in the download app section (where you found the answer). I also put a note in the readme. Seems like I've done ...

Yeah, the log feature has been in there for quite a while, but what you describe is a little different.

I do plan to improve the logging feature in the software eventually. I'll probably add a user interface for keeping notes and stuff too.

Thanks!

good suggestions. thanks!

You'd have to create an ECU file from a hack for that application. I don't believe anyone has made an ECU for a mercedes.

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