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Long-time e36 guy, new to 413 tuning.
Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 4:52 pm
by thedean
Hi guys I have owned a few BMW's my last one being a turbo e30 on full standalone and my current one being a OBD1 413 ECU converted s52 e36.
With my e30 I converted to standalone and loved being able to tune my car myself.
I would love to be able to use the stock 413 ecu to tune my e36 for its current modifications and for my upcoming turbo build.
I am new to tunerpro and am learning how to understand hex. I have PMed a couple of guys in this section who I thought know the 413 system pretty well and understand how to find the maps and create XDF files already.
I am basically just looking for help on how to understand and figure out the axis units for some of the fuel, MAF, and ignition tables
I am new to hex and am wondering if you could start me off on the right track on how to learn about find the map locations and what the axis units are for some of the maps. I have a bin I'm working on but have some questions like:
For example are all the fuel maps in Target AFR? Is their no VE based or pulsewidth based base map? Are the part throttle maps based on TPS sensor position? Also for example the MAF table, what unit conversion is the airflow in and what are the axis units?
If you do not wish to disclose what you know that's no problem. How much do you charge for your OBD1 413 turbo tunes?
Could I perhaps send you a bin and then you could make me a xdf or tell me how to get started? Also, what hexeditor do you use?
I look forward to learning more about the 413 and tuning my BMW!
Thanks,
Michon
Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 6:42 pm
by revlimit
in my XDF, you got to change file size from FFFF to 10000 in order for ostrich2 to work properly.
Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 6:49 pm
by thedean
Where can I find your XDF with a know working BIN for it?
Re: Long-time e36 guy, new to 413 tuning.
Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2011 7:07 am
by bmwconnect
thedean wrote:Hi guys I have owned a few BMW's my last one being a turbo e30 on full standalone and my current one being a OBD1 413 ECU converted s52 e36.
With my e30 I converted to standalone and loved being able to tune my car myself.
I would love to be able to use the stock 413 ecu to tune my e36 for its current modifications and for my upcoming turbo build.
I am new to tunerpro and am learning how to understand hex. I have PMed a couple of guys in this section who I thought know the 413 system pretty well and understand how to find the maps and create XDF files already.
I am basically just looking for help on how to understand and figure out the axis units for some of the fuel, MAF, and ignition tables
I am new to hex and am wondering if you could start me off on the right track on how to learn about find the map locations and what the axis units are for some of the maps. I have a bin I'm working on but have some questions like:
For example are all the fuel maps in Target AFR? Is their no VE based or pulsewidth based base map? Are the part throttle maps based on TPS sensor position? Also for example the MAF table, what unit conversion is the airflow in and what are the axis units?
If you do not wish to disclose what you know that's no problem. How much do you charge for your OBD1 413 turbo tunes?
Could I perhaps send you a bin and then you could make me a xdf or tell me how to get started? Also, what hexeditor do you use?
I look forward to learning more about the 413 and tuning my BMW!
Thanks,
Michon
I have done several turbo and supercharger tunes for the 413 DME - What size of MAF are you running? What Injectors? shoot me a email and I can help you get started with a base tune -
midnight-tuning@rogers.com
cheers
Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2011 6:23 pm
by revlimit
I have done several turbo and supercharger tunes for the 413 DME - What size of MAF are you running? What Injectors? shoot me a email and I can help you get started with a base tune
Warning! this guy hasn't made a single XDF and uses my own free XDFs to make money on people.
Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2011 6:41 pm
by bmwconnect
revlimit wrote:
Warning! this guy hasn't made a single XDF and uses my own free XDFs to make money on people.
People come to me when they want XDFs done correctly and my time spent on doing them correctly is not for free
I also have paper damos for early bosch dme's so my xdf authoring/maps are not a guess like your work
thanks for coming out though revlimit
Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 10:12 am
by DmcL
oh, done correctly like the customer with the M42 and 175 ECU here:
http://www.e30tech.com/forum/showthread ... 22&page=68
i seem to recall having to re-do basically every map in that XDF u sold him.. owned
Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 4:33 pm
by bmwconnect
Ah! I see the memo fairy has visited us again.
Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 10:00 am
by DmcL
dude, its simple..
1 - stop pretending u know everything and never make mistakes.
2 - dont abandon customers after they buy something just because they are a pain in ur backside.
3 - dont sell crap files.. if ur going to sell something made by someone else atleast change some stuff and make sure whats in there is correct first ffs.
4 - dont plaster ur business all over every forum ur on without supporting/sponsoring the forum. would u allow someone to do that on ur forum?
5 - enjoy life/tuning and notice how people stop bashing on u all the time and maybe even start recommending u.
Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 11:30 am
by revlimit
DMCL even if this fraud had some paper DAMOS files for our obd1 bmws he wouldn't know how to decode them.
DAMOS paper files are in german and are coded, even if you knew german, you wouldn't know. Only if you were into ECUs and you were from Bavaria that you would understand what the letters mean.
I have the full DAMOS file for Siemens MS43 and I still can't figure it out.
Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 1:53 pm
by bmwconnect
I see you've both set aside this special time to humiliate yourselfs in public
Good JOB Guys
Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 7:36 am
by gavin
bmwconnect wrote:revlimit wrote:
Warning! this guy hasn't made a single XDF and uses my own free XDFs to make money on people.
People come to me when they want XDFs done correctly and my time spent on doing them correctly is not for free
I also have paper damos for early bosch dme's so my xdf authoring/maps are not a guess like your work
thanks for coming out though revlimit
This Guy wanted from me 50$ for repairing the XDF for my 402,saying that rev limiter's xdf was wrong,now i know that all i needed to do,was to drop all the values in lambda adaptation to 0, not a lot of work for 50$
Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 11:36 am
by aboutton
Gavin i did repair the rev limiter for that particular ecu, nd i posted the formula.
so i guess the rev limiter is corrected.
Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 8:46 am
by gavin
Yes you did,and it is a very god job.but the revlimiter adres was correct,and it was for free